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  <description>Words from a humble phaistonian on life, web-ing, technology and other stuff that hopefully matter</description>
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  <pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:51:25 +0200</pubDate>
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   <title>Spill reviews: not the usual movie reviews</title>
   <description>&lt;p&gt;Though I love movies, I rarely have the time to actually go see one on cinema. Anyhow, I try to keep myself up to date with the new stuff coming up and since I had some free time today I thought I &apos;d look around and get some info porn on the movies theme.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;While browsing around I came to &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Spill&quot; href=&quot;http://www.spill.com&quot;&gt;Spill&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Spill is not the usual movies site you &apos;d expect. But what&apos;s really refreshing and fun to watch is &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Spill reviews&quot; href=&quot;http://www.spill.com/movie-review/&quot;&gt;their reviews&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;If you are into movies and could use some fun, check our Spill reviews. You will luv em, I did.&#10;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;ps: do check out &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Iron Man review from Spill&quot; href=&quot;http://www.spill.com/movie-review/Iron+Man/353425&quot;&gt;Iron Man&apos;s review&lt;/a&gt;, absolutely hilarious.&lt;/span&gt;&#10;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#10;</description>
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   <dc:date>2008-06-14T15:51:23+02:00</dc:date>
   <dc:creator>georgep</dc:creator>
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   <title>I am big big phone in an i-i-iWorld</title>
   <description>&lt;p&gt;So, what if you are &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Nokia&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Motorola&lt;/span&gt; or even worse &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Micorosft&lt;/span&gt; and just happened to attend &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Steve Jobs&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs&quot;&gt;Steve Jobs&lt;/a&gt; presenting on &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Worldwide Developers Conference&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_Developers_Conference&quot;&gt;WWDC&lt;/a&gt; 2008.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;What, I mean really, &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;what&lt;/span&gt; would you do next?&lt;/p&gt;&#10;</description>
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   <dc:date>2008-06-09T21:58:28+02:00</dc:date>
   <dc:creator>georgep</dc:creator>
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   <title>Pathfinder Blogs: New additions</title>
   <description>&lt;p&gt;Some interesting updates have been implemented in &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Pathfinder Blogs&quot; href=&quot;http://blogs.pathfinder.gr/&quot;&gt;Pathfinder Blogs&lt;/a&gt; and are live as of now:&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;ul&gt;&#10;    &lt;li&gt;Multiple file uploads&lt;/li&gt;&#10;&#10;    &lt;li&gt;Improved image dialog&lt;/li&gt;&#10;&#10;    &lt;li&gt;Improved &quot;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Blog this&lt;/span&gt;&quot; thingy&lt;/li&gt;&#10;&#10;    &lt;li&gt;Improved alerting&lt;/li&gt;&#10;&#10;    &lt;li&gt;Gravatar support (for non Pathfinder.gr logged in members)&#10;    &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&#10;&#10;    &lt;li&gt;Loads of bug fixes and UX tweaks&lt;/li&gt;&#10;&lt;/ul&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Enjoy;)&#10;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#10;</description>
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   <dc:date>2008-06-04T13:20:09+02:00</dc:date>
   <dc:creator>georgep</dc:creator>
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   <title>GBC08: Our big fun G(r)eek event</title>
   <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a title=&quot;GBC07&quot; href=&quot;http://phaistonian.pblogs.gr/gbc07-greek-blogosphere-in-motion.html&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt;&quot; src=&quot;http://phaistonian.pblogs.gr/files/144971-gbc-logo.png&quot; title=&quot;gbc-logo.png&quot; alt=&quot;gbc-logo.png&quot; align=&quot;left&quot; height=&quot;187&quot; width=&quot;197&quot; /&gt;GBC07&lt;/a&gt; was fun and relaxing. &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Greek Blogger Camp&quot; href=&quot;http://www.greekbloggercamp.gr&quot;&gt;GBC078&lt;/a&gt; has been even better: Interesting people, loads of excitement combined with a bit of geekiness.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;The main side effect of those 2 days away from work and &quot;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;here&lt;/span&gt;&quot; is me feeling even more tired and exhausted, a by all means expected and often side effect.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Congrats to &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Stefanos Kofopoulos&quot; href=&quot;http://www.pestaola.gr&quot;&gt;Stefanos&lt;/a&gt; and to all those who contributed to the event. I am sure the next one in the series will be even better.&#10;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;PS: The food could have been better but hey, that was good enough reason for me not eat too much (again).&#10;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#10;</description>
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   <dc:date>2008-06-02T20:30:00+02:00</dc:date>
   <dc:creator>georgep</dc:creator>
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   <title>UX details: instant Wikipedia lookup</title>
   <description>&lt;p&gt;In case you face a &lt;em&gt;@Wikipedia&lt;/em&gt; link in your &quot;Create link&quot; dialog while working on a post at &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Pathfinder Blogs&quot; href=&quot;http://blogs.pathfinder.gr/&quot;&gt;Pathfinder Blogs&lt;/a&gt;, just click it and you will come up with a handy little input field that will save you time and pain (it does it for me).&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;img style=&quot;margin: 10px 0pt;&quot; src=&quot;http://phaistonian.pblogs.gr/files/137314-aliens-wikipedia.png&quot; title=&quot;aliens-wikipedia.png&quot; alt=&quot;aliens-wikipedia.png&quot; align=&quot;middle&quot; height=&quot;510&quot; width=&quot;806&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;More reference sources will be added in the near future - but hey - this little thing is nothing much. Bigger and nicer things are coming.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;</description>
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   <dc:date>2008-05-13T20:19:39+02:00</dc:date>
   <dc:creator>georgep</dc:creator>
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   <title>Streaming in style</title>
   <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Core.stream&lt;/span&gt;, the latest addition to the &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;core&quot; href=&quot;http://core.pathfinder.gr/&quot;&gt;Core&lt;/a&gt; family seems to be smooth and solid at last. Though it&apos;s just a tiny little thing in terms of code, getting it to work cross browser decently was a pain.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Check out a rather simple - and kind of bad - implementation &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Chat based on Core.stream&quot; href=&quot;http://georgep.dev.pathfinder.gr/Chat/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: center;&quot;&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;http://georgep.dev.pathfinder.gr/Chat/&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://ads3.adman.gr/gp/core.stream-chat.png&quot; title=&quot;Chat&quot; based=&quot;&quot; on=&quot;&quot; alt=&quot;core.stream-chat.png&quot; align=&quot;middle&quot; height=&quot;274&quot; width=&quot;720&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Ps: this chat thing is using an ugly and ridiculous PHP server I made for the test case, so in case nothing happens, fear not, server will be down again.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Ps1: Some interesting implementations of core.stream are coming soon to &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; title=&quot;Pathfinder - the Greek Portal&quot; the=&quot;&quot; greek=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;http://www.pathfinder.gr&quot;&gt;Pathfinder&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;</description>
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   <dc:date>2008-05-08T00:40:10+02:00</dc:date>
   <dc:creator>georgep</dc:creator>
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   <title>The day .gr stood still</title>
   <description>&lt;p&gt;Our &lt;a title=&quot;.gr&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.gr&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;domain&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; has been up and running, in terms of enterprise presense, for more than 10 years. Still, we keep treating our domain - and thus ourselves - as infants even today&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;This status and misery is the result of our auto catastrophic, esostrestrfic nature. We tend not to embrace what we are; we simply don&apos;t believe in us.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Since the early days, many have changed, many startups have emerged. Greeks have improved in terms of web development and projects. Interesting ideas and projects are born by the day.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;This is called progress, yet we insist on ignoring it and calling it &lt;em&gt;nothing&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Extending this notion - this is the devil coder inside me talking - we can easily see that this attitude is the fundamental force - or curse - that&apos;s driving us, as a nation, &lt;em&gt;down&lt;/em&gt; from where once used to be.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;In closure, quoting my dearest &lt;a title=&quot;Morpheus&quot; href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morpheus_%28The_Matrix%29&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Morpheus&lt;/a&gt; we should stop THINKing that we are, we must start KNOWing that we are (can).&lt;/p&gt;&#10;</description>
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   <dc:date>2008-04-19T21:36:57+02:00</dc:date>
   <dc:creator>georgep</dc:creator>
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   <title>IE bugs of the week</title>
   <description>&lt;p&gt;Since being tired and busy isn&apos;t the proper status to compose a &lt;em&gt;serious&lt;/em&gt; post, here is a list of some &lt;em&gt;stupid&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a title=&quot;Internet Explorer aka IE&quot; href=&quot;http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/default.mspx&quot;&gt;IE&lt;/a&gt; bugs that kept me busy over the week (such posts require minimum effort and time).&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Hopefully the time I wasted trying to figure out workarounds for those ugly bugs will be helpful for others trying to keep up with the IE &lt;em&gt;phenomenon&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;ol&gt;&#10;    &lt;li&gt;Never use &lt;a title=&quot;Doctype @ w3schools.com&quot; href=&quot;http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_DOCTYPE.asp&quot;&gt;&lt;code&gt;doctype&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/a&gt; declaration when writing html to &lt;code&gt;iFrame&lt;/code&gt; documents.&#10;    &lt;br /&gt;&#10;    IE will mishandle some events and/or will behave wrong in certain cases (e.g when resizing &lt;code&gt;iFrame.window&lt;/code&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&#10;&#10;    &lt;li&gt;Avoid adding comments before declaring a &lt;code&gt;doctype&lt;/code&gt; to a &lt;code&gt;document&lt;/code&gt;.&#10;    &lt;br /&gt;&#10;    IE will make you mad when handling window related events cause of those comment nodes.&lt;/li&gt;&#10;&#10;    &lt;li&gt;When dealing with &lt;code&gt;iFrame&lt;/code&gt; documents, use &lt;code&gt;document.body&lt;/code&gt; as scope (just for IE) when attaching events, rather than document itself, or you will end up wondering where have your RAM has gone soon enough (memory leaks parade).&lt;/li&gt;&#10;&#10;    &lt;li&gt;On IE &amp;lt; 6SP2 referencing window and document through indirectly will RANDOMLY cause problems, so in such cases do it the direct way.&lt;/li&gt;&#10;&#10;    &lt;li&gt;To force browser &quot;de-cache&quot; a .js document, make sure the appended string has a .js extension, otherwise IE &amp;lt; 6SP2 MAY cause problems (content type handling issues).&lt;/li&gt;&#10;&lt;/ol&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Those all I can recall at the moment.If I had an IE bug log running, I am sure this list would have been way more populated.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;IE has been a pretty buggy buddy for many years. A great deal of hours are wasted to keep this &quot;friendship&quot; alive, but honestly, no matter how innovative this browser has been, I am getting to old to keep dealing with this mess.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Hopefully &lt;a title=&quot;Download ie8-beta&quot; href=&quot;http://phaistonian.pblogs.gr/download-ie8-beta.html&quot;&gt;IE8&lt;/a&gt; will have some mercy for our sanity just by following the &lt;a title=&quot;w3&quot; href=&quot;http://www.w3.org/&quot;&gt;standards&lt;/a&gt; (it sounds easy, does it not?)&lt;/p&gt;&#10;</description>
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   <dc:date>2008-04-16T22:42:49+02:00</dc:date>
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   <title>Design != Beauty</title>
   <description>&lt;p&gt;At early 2000s I was present in a speech given by a very respected and experienced person regarding his new plans as CEO of a company related to ours.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;I was very surprised to hear that his plans were, among others, to turn all illustrators to (web) designers.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Well those words were such a surprise for me. I keep referring to that speech almost every time I go down the usual path of explaining why (in my humble opinion) design has very little to with illustration and beauty.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p style=&quot;text-align: justify;&quot;&gt;To me, design is the ability to use our &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;mind&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;efficiently&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;methodically&lt;/span&gt; and in conjunction with solid &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;experience&lt;/span&gt; to create &lt;em&gt;soul&lt;/em&gt; driven results used in every aspect of our &lt;span&gt;work and life in general.&lt;/span&gt; Design is all about our souls.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;On those preaching sessions with my colleagues (friends) at work I emphasize that a designer&apos;s first step is to get some initial clarity and peace in their work space. Keeping your desk and closet in place is a required step t to keep your mind in place. Since design is originated from mind, you need to keep your mind healthy by removing cluttering for one thing.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Learning how to code (in any given language) is easy. Learning how to Photoshop even easier. Learning how to design is not. Design requires more than learning.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Can we all design? Yes, I firmly believe we can.I believe we all design just by thinking and experiencing.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;After all, we have inherited this gift by our &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;Father&lt;/span&gt;, the most perfect and infamous designer of all; &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;God&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;Ps: I don&apos;t consider myself a designer. I am just (still) trying to get there.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;</description>
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   <dc:date>2008-04-08T20:38:53+02:00</dc:date>
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   <title>OpenRank</title>
   <description>&lt;p&gt;Last year, at &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Mix07&lt;/span&gt;&apos;s panel attending some fine folks ranting about their work and infamous projects (&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Twitter&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Facebook&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;LiveJournal&lt;/span&gt;), I had an &quot;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;epiphany&lt;/span&gt;&quot; - while commenting with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mentalblock.gr&quot;&gt;Panos&lt;/a&gt; on the speakers - of  an fiction concept that would at least make a difference, if ever implemented.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;The idea is quite simple and relies on the single currency net life is evaluated with; &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Fame&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;Fame&lt;/span&gt; = &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;brand value&lt;/span&gt; = &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;popularity&lt;/span&gt; = level of &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;respect&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;influence&lt;/span&gt;. You know politics in all their glory.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;So what if all those social services and networks &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;hosting your life&lt;/span&gt; and you e-activities could/ would provide a &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;rank&lt;/span&gt; for your based on your fame based on the presence in that that certain social block.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;A number(rank) depicting your fame in the social circle formatted and maintained by each network&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;And say you got that, wouldn&apos;t it be extra cool and interesting to have all those &lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;ranks&lt;/span&gt; aggregated and merged into &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;single&lt;/span&gt; one defining your global  Rank, your internet &quot;&lt;span style=&quot;font-style: italic;&quot;&gt;value&lt;/span&gt;&quot; in other words.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;I guess such a theoretical concept, combined with the fact we are born competitive animals, would make huge change on how we e-live and act and thus internet a new kind of game to be part in.&lt;/p&gt;&#10;&#10;&lt;p&gt;After all, quoting my beloved &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Pacino&quot;&gt;Al Pacino&lt;/a&gt; in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118971/&quot;&gt;Devil&apos;s advocate&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;Vanity, my(definitely my) favorite sin ...&quot;&#10;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#10;</description>
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   <dc:date>2008-04-05T00:40:53+02:00</dc:date>
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